MARK Z. & LLOYD

PUNK ROCK, SKATEBOARDING AND ALL THE DEBAUCH THAT’S FIT TO PRINT

SUMMER 2019 EDITION

Mark: You guys should talk about how you met.

Lloyd: He was 13. I probably would have been around 12.

Mark: When did you start skateboarding?

Lloyd: I don’t know. Ask him. When did we start skateboarding together?

Cholo: In high school. It was '85

Mark: '85. Sadlands was already going.

Lloyd: From there, we skated a lot of backyard pools

Cholo: We were skating all over ditches and streets and pools. Ramps occasionally, if we could find one.

Lloyd: Yeah, there was a mini ramp across from Anaheim High School. That's where we first skated together. I was pre-dreadlocks

Mark: The Fishbowl story’s good. The one with the wigs where you got caught wearing the old lady’s wigs skating the pool. You tell it.

Cholo: This one time, probably the last time we skated there because someone moved in, but the lady who lived there moved out or got kicked out. She left all her stuff there. Everything. I guess you could say she was a hoarder because there was mad clothes and stuff in the back in one of those tin sheds. We were rummaging through there and found a bunch of wigs, put them on and we were skating in the pool. This guy found us and kicked us out. We left the wigs on, took off and skated down the street.

Mark: [Fishbowl] was a legendary pool. It’d been there since the 70s. Some guy bought it and wouldn’t let no one skate it and our friend Tucker moved in next door, gradually talked him into letting us skate it a few years back. Then they tore it down. I saved a bunch of pieces of the pool. They called it the Fishbowl because it had a bunch of fish built into the side of the pool.

We should talk about how you started Scum Skateboards.

Cholo: I was working at a wood shop with a skateboard manufacturer out in Brea. I was working there for a couple years, started up a little brand, put some graphics on some boards and did some bigger shapes. This was in the mid 90s.

Mark: Yeah, so he goes all the way back to manufacturing skateboards and then he took a screenprinting class to learn how to print the boards.

Scum is one of the longest standing, most respected underground companies right now. To this day, no corporate dumb shit.

Lloyd: And pretty much Scum is a total DIY thing. He’s sole proprietor. He does everything. I go in and help him in the little bit I can, but he pretty much does it all. I’ll stick the boards on the rack.

Mark: Good job Lloyd.

I pretty much call Fullerton Scum Park because Cholo had the shop there and if you rode that park, you were at Scum pretty much. If you don’t, you’re kind of a kook.

Cholo: We had moved the shop from my garage in Brea and then that park opened up at the same time so, yeah, I've been around since the park in Fullerton.

Kari: When you started Scum, was it just a hobby or was it a business?

Cholo: Just a hobby because I was already working full time at the wood shop.

Kari: Where did the nickname Cholo come from?

Cholo: That was back in the Sadlands days. This guy Dave Church used to always roll up to the park and call me Rolo.

Lloyd: Because he was eating those Rolo candies.

Mark: And his name’s Roland.

Lloyd: And then Dave called him Roland Cholo one day.

Mark: I always thought it was because he was gangster until I heard that. Because Scum Skates, the following is a really tough crowd. And Cholo you think this guy is going to murder you, but he’s super chill with his dolphin tattoo.

Cholo: [Looking at his tattoo] Blue Haven.

Mark: Yeah, that’s what that’s about. It’s a style of empty backyard pools.

Cholo: The tile on the pool.

Mark: I never knew that. I was only a few years younger than them when I heard about Sadlands, but I was on the eastside and I was like, "Dude, I heard those guys will beat you up if you skate there." As I got older, someone asked, "Who? Lloyd and Cholo." Sal [Thee Indigents vocals] would have beat you up though.

Lloyd: Sal would have stole your chick. And you’d be crying, "My chick left with Sal." We even had a rhyme for it.

Mark: Let’s talk about how many riders you got all over the country. Who are some of the big guys you brought up? Cudlipp was amazing. Chris Cudlipp. Benji Galloway. Did Lester ride for you?

Cholo: Yeah, Lester was on some models and Blackhart, Losi. There's been quite a few through 20 years.

Mark: You’ve got dumbass Jarren. Keep that in there. I love Jarren. Little redhead. You’ve got Jason. Jason rules. And that other little kid you put on. What’s his name? That little punker kid?

Cholo: Kyle.

Mark: Yeah, that kid rips.

Cholo: And then there’s Brandon and Kayl. Dan Tag.

Mark: [Talking to dog] Drackie stop it. You’re not in the interview. Do we need more? We didn’t make fun of him much.

*Pool photo courtesy of Roland Sanchez.

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